Magic Music Visuals

Thanks for a great piece of software! It's doing (most of) what I want really early with a very low barrier to entry.

I fell into an APC Mini Mk 1 and I'm writing an MMV project for it.
There's a handful of things I'm missing that would make MMV better at helping me make my pretty moving pictures. I did look around in the manual and online. I'd love to see workarounds and depths that I haven't found yet to do this.

1) Midi out. I want to see the blinky lights behind the buttons when something happens. In grid controllers this would let users do way more complicated stuff in performing without getting lost.

2) A bigger expression modifier text box or pop-out window for expressions. I can't see what I'm doing! I'm writing exprTk in a text editor and copy-pasting back and forth. (edit: I get the 'update' window now. Sometimes. Don't understand it yet, but nvm.)

3) Re-usable globals or even user functions or objects or something. I don't see a way to re-use my globals besides using 'save as' for the project and starting over.

4) A linkable "transitions" module or some kind of centralized way to manage wipes, dissolves, cuts, whatever. It doesn't need to be comprehensive. Comparable to a 90s prosumer video mixer would be awesome. I know these transitions are cheesy. They have emotional meaning to me. ;)

5) Linking in the 'blend' module. Cycling through blend modes (even input order?) via midi would be useful to me.

Maybe I'm asking more of MMV than it was intended to do. I like it and it's *so close* to everything I want.

... did I say something I wasn't supposed to?

No, I think everyone appreciates when features are suggested or there's any contribution to the forum (I do). Why there was no response, I can only say from my pov.

1. Not relevant to me
2. I agree for the odd occasion when I do longer scripts but not enough to respond.
3. I didn't fully understand
4. Already requested (playlist transitions)
5. I agree that in few cases (some addons) it would be handy to automate the 'long' lists but in most cases this is by design because its best not to change these at run-time (sometimes I'd like to change fonts but these are mostly too slow to load). However, there's nothing stopping you (and it's probably better) to create a scene with a bunch of blend modules, each configured to your preferred selection and controlled by an InputSelector.

Again, from my pov, there was nothing amazing or new and if your requests been more thought out and generalised - maybe, just maybe, someone would have responded. But, as TKS said earlier, the forum is very quiet these days. Perhaps to be expected for a decade old piece of software.

1) Does "not relevant to me" mean it won't happen? I'd just like some visual feedback from my midi controller -- I'd guess others have button-y Ableton controllers with a lot of backlight and indicator light options. Sending midi out from MMV would let me see things like what's going on in another scene from a controller. With limited preview window options, this would help me a lot. It would allow for a lot of other uses (controlling external lighting, synths, whatever) as well. I haven't seen this discussed at any length elsewhere in the forum. Was this ruled out or did it get a negative response earlier that I missed?

3) I'm getting a better idea of how the developers envision managing globals across projects as I do more. NVM.

Can you tell me more about what I ought to expect from a decade-old piece of software? Is there a more appropriate place to ask? Should I have asked before buying it?

Different users have different ways of working and I'm just a regular user. If midi feedback was asked for by a fair proportion of users then the devs would take notice. For me, I get enough feedback from the visual. I have an apc-40 but I don't use it - I prefer TouchOSC and feedback would not help me - the lights turn on and off when you press them and the visual responds.

The power of globals to share values is one of their major advantages. Globals and linked values could be improved (IMHO). There are several discussions about them on this forum.

After 10 years you can expect a solid piece of software that has stood the test of time and which has been maintained and improved over that decade.

There is not a more appropriate place to ask about Magic, this forum is the place. Almost every time I'm out projecting visuals I get several people asking how I do what I do and I'm happy to show them. Many will take a photo of my screen saying they will probably buy a license. It is a personal decision to buy or not but with the demo and this forum there's no reason not to be informed and I would always recommend Magic over many other softwares.

I've been trying to avoid writing a separate script but I guess that's The Way. Thanks.

I guess I saved 20 bucks by doing without midi output.

As much of a fan of magic music visuals as I am, I rep yall as my main software for vjing in texas for the last 5 years, using a 10 year old software fhaf has made me 10s of thousands of dollars. I understand the times we live in big bro, Sadler, you're a legend and OG for what we all do. Fuck resolume. Really. Thank you for that ability to stick it to the corporate man and give us an avenue to be relevant artists in the whatever the fuck-esque society we are all living in. And for a software that I've had clutch response times from support at time where yall didn't have to help(ie weekends,holidays) I respect yall heavily. Bit tbh, I hate seeing this response to someone with a decently articulated, maybe not full of the tech guy vernac that you may have been looking for, but a mad solid request for features. One that could have been met with a solution that you know for this particular situation, that's what we love you for. Idk if you're going through it fam, if so much love to you, prayers for you and yours for real. But you still take money for licenses for the software, which has not been Cracked publicly, solid asf truly. But my qualms are, you act as if you can't be bothered with homies post, which tbh you signed up to be bothered with stuff just like this, citing that he didn't pour through existing requests, from an admitted decade old piece of software, which is kind of a double standard. Respectively. Coming from someone who has built my career with every weekend industry experience, for the last 5 years, some yrs over 75 shows a year, major relevant artists, just be aware of your role as a leader, and that we support you. Just make sure you do t forget about us brotha.
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Op send me a message on IG plz I wanna get some expressions from you

trillcityvisuals wrote:you're a legend and OG for what we all do. ...Thank you for that ability to stick it to the corporate man and give us an avenue to be relevant artists in the whatever the fuck-esque society we are all living in. And for a software that I've had clutch response times from support at time where yall didn't have to help (ie weekends,holidays) I respect yall heavily.

Aw shucks!

trillcityvisuals also wrote:But tbh, I hate seeing this response to someone with a decently articulated, maybe not full of the tech guy vernac that you may have been looking for, but a mad solid request for features. One that could have been met with a solution that you know for this particular situation,

I was responding to gregRocksSoHard lamenting the lack of response to his feature requests. I have little sway over what features get implemented and there ain't any 'solutions' that I can provide for these requests - they would come from the developer - Eric.

trillcityvisuals then inexplicably wrote: Idk if you're going through it fam, if so much love to you, prayers for you and yours for real.

I'm not sure exactly what mood I was in back in Sep 2024 but I appreciate the love!

trillcityvisuals then wrote:But you still take money for licenses for the software, which has not been Cracked publicly, solid asf truly. But my qualms are, you act as if you can't be bothered with homies post, which tbh you signed up to be bothered with stuff just like this, citing that he didn't pour through existing requests, from an admitted decade old piece of software, which is kind of a double standard.

I AM NOT THE DEVELOPER! I am an enthusiastic user like the rest of you. I think gregRocksSoHard may have made this mistake too. I didn't sign up for anything and receive no kickbacks from anyone. And I think you'll see I was the only person to respond to gregRocksSoHard.