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ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:34 pm
by Studio-dbfx
Hi Eric, I am testing out the beta version 2.01 and have no issues, all good, excellent!. My favourite ISF generator is the Bump Distortion! Would it be possible to have a Z parameter included?

Also is it possible to delete entries in the playlist, not the main playlist. I took a screenshot, but can't seem to attach it to this message. It’s the entries that are no longer associated with the project. The entries float above the main playlist and have their own box. I’ve been going through my GLSL Shaders and deleting ones which are cpu heavy.

Thanks :)

Trevor

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 6:01 pm
by Magic
Hi Eric, I am testing out the beta version 2.01 and have no issues, all good, excellent!. My favourite ISF generator is the Bump Distortion! Would it be possible to have a Z parameter included?
All the ISF modules are generously provided by Vidvox, and as a condition of distributing them in Magic, I can't modify them unfortunately :(.
Also is it possible to delete entries in the playlist, not the main playlist. I took a screenshot, but can't seem to attach it to this message. It’s the entries that are no longer associated with the project. The entries float above the main playlist and have their own box. I’ve been going through my GLSL Shaders and deleting ones which are cpu heavy.
Hmm, I'm not sure what you mean. A screenshot would definitely help ;). If you reply to this post, you can click on the "Upload attachment" link, choose the file, and then click on "Add the file".

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 8:52 pm
by Studio-dbfx
Hi Eric :),

Thanks for repyling back to me! :) I see, you can't modify the ISF modules by Vidvox in MAGIC. :( There is a work around, but it just means using up cpu by adding another 3D model or shader! A Z parameter would mean I could move the bump anywhere on one module!

Ah! I just noticed the upload attachment, plus the notify button Lol. My first forum post! haha. I have been making templates for future tracks and testing what MAGIC can do. The new ISF modules are great and giving me tons of more options.

I've deleted some GLSL shaders and when I went to open a 'project template' MAGIC said it couldn't open 'pattern1' for example, even though I'm not using it.
I just want to 'delete', 'clean up' unused modules.

Thanks

Trevor :)
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Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 9:17 pm
by Studio-dbfx
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Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 9:31 am
by Magic
I think the issue is that you aren't actually removing your scenes. Clicking a tab's "x" button only hides the scene from view; it doesn't remove it. To remove it, you have to select the "Remove Scene" option from the tab menu: https://magicmusicvisuals.com/downloads ... ml#TabMenu

To show the full list of scenes in your project, whether or not their tabs are visible, use the Folder View: https://magicmusicvisuals.com/downloads ... FolderView

Let me know if it helps.

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:04 pm
by Studio-dbfx
Thanks Eric, the 'Folder View' window has solved the problem. I haven't used that properly yet, but will do now!

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:40 pm
by artnik
Just curious, what do you mean by a "Z" parameter? ISFs output 2D images, not 3D geometry. From what I can see, looking at the code, the CENTER parameters adjust in X and Y, while the LEVEL parameter creates the illusion of a bump in Z already.

How would you want it to be different?

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:45 pm
by Studio-dbfx
Hi artnik, I have been experimenting with the ISF modules. I would have to show you an example to what I mean by adding a Z parameter. At the minute I’m cleaning up my ‘project templates’, after Eric solved my problem. Most likely upload a sample to youtube with a simple beat or somebody else’s track to show why I requested a Z parameter.

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 6:15 pm
by artnik
Studio-dbfx wrote:Hi artnik, I have been experimenting with the ISF modules. I would have to show you an example to what I mean by adding a Z parameter. At the minute I’m cleaning up my ‘project templates’, after Eric solved my problem. Most likely upload a sample to youtube with a simple beat or somebody else’s track to show why I requested a Z parameter.
Cool. Look forward to seeing it!

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:07 pm
by Studio-dbfx
I've set this sample youtube video to private. let me know if you're having difficulty viewing it and I will change the settings to public. I won't have this up for long....


Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:12 pm
by Studio-dbfx
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_mcGaWsRJc



Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:24 pm
by Studio-dbfx
View in 720 HD

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:45 pm
by artnik
Link doesn't work. Private videos are... well... private. :-)

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:02 pm
by Studio-dbfx
ok will set it to public for a short time! surprised the link doesn't work after you logged into youtube

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:04 pm
by artnik
Studio-dbfx wrote:ok will set it to public for a short time! surprised the link doesn't work after you logged into youtube
There's three options for YouTube privacy settings: Public, Unlisted, and Private.

Unlisted will allow someone with the URL to be able to view it, while excluding it from searches and other listings on YouTube.

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:10 pm
by artnik
Ah, I see where you're coming from now. Yeah, that ISF only fakes the illusion of Z.

There's very few ISFs that actually work in 3D, like I said, although there's actually the functionality in the specification to manipulate geometry, the vast majority of them are just 2D fragment shaders.

To get that kind of effect, the best option I've found is the Video Heightfield plugin (I forked a version Video Heightfield+ to add some features) , but it only works on brightness levels for the extrusion in Z. It may be possible to amend it to take one input for the extrusion, and another for the colour, so an animated greyscale image can be used for the bump shape.

Link: https://www.interactiveshaderformat.com/sketches/1041

Cheers!

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:15 pm
by artnik
And... DONE!

Turns out it was a trivial change. Now the first input is the heightfield, and the second is the colour. I present Video Heightfield++:

https://www.interactiveshaderformat.com/sketches/1748

P.S. Output is still 2D. But the X-Rotate and Y-Rotate parameters change the viewpoint.

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:31 pm
by Studio-dbfx
Thanks for the link artnik! my laptop isn't that powerful and I could hear the fan and cpu overworking when I clicked on both links. glad you can see where I was coming from with the Z parameter request. It would have meant I could move the bump towards me and not just being at one end.

I do have other samples which involves 3D models which actually describes what you're saying, and I used version 2.0 of MAGIC to do that. will upload them at a later date, going to have to pull the sample video down from Youtube. They already flagged it as copyright protected. Have to get back to cleaning up my 'Project Templates'.....got a few lol

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:37 pm
by artnik
Well, perhaps someone else will find it useful. I know I will. :-)

Cheers!

Re: ISF Bump Distortion Z parameter and Playlist entries

Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:57 pm
by Sadler
I too will find your IFS++ useful - thank you Nik.