Magic Music Visuals

Do you use Reaper for encoding/decoding? I agree this could be an improvement if Magic could handle multichannel audio and make 3D sound placement available in modules.

Hello You can link any parameter to any midi note. First you have to a midi source, of course, and then you can set the way parameter are modulated: by notes, by specific midi note/velocity, by control number.. Cliking on "source feature" on any module will run the midilearn and you just h...

Hello Weirdwolvesmusic! I use magic with my rock band, feeding it with audio (Mics and line input) and midi (from keyboards, drumpads, midiguitar), so I can maybe help you. What you are looking for is certainly doable, you just have to route some trigger (audio or midi) to the computer that run Magi...

time to add my +1

Hello, hope you have found a solution for your SPD. If not, here is a trick: use "loopMIDI" (Tobias Erichsen) to route your midi input to a VST host (Vst host by Hermann Seib is a light and robust one) and load midi vst such as found in "Pizmidi" plugin suite to filter Note off m...

hello Davy, late to the party, hope you have solved the issue. SPD and almost all drum triggers send note on and note off messages, but the interval between the 2 midi messages is too short for magic (and other softs). You'll have to filter the note off message before it reach Magic. You can do it b...

Nice work!! Thank you for these cool flashbacks images (et merci pour Zébulon et le manège enchanté)

nice trick. Thank you for sharing!

Thank you guys

Another Animusic using Cubase and some midi automations.

Like tears...in rain...

I have the same advice: wireless is a possible source of problem on stage, that can't be corrected by simply plug or unplug a cable. I went this route and I'm back to the wired solution. Things sometimes works flawlessly in rehersal room, but this is another story in real live situation. If you real...

Well done for a first attempt, and congrats for the music! Nice guitar part and vocal. happy to see Mostly Automn mentionned in a Magic Visual topic.
hope to see and hear more from you.

impressive! Kind of fractal Dragon.
If only last step done in Magic, what do you use before?

Nice one. I suspect some DAZ here

Did you use an animated model or a previously rendered video file for the vocal?

I already have Daz 3D, but encountered some strange behaviour with textures export in Magic. For my latest videos, I tried to build some basic models with Blender. Had to follow some tutorials for the basics, and still at the beginning of the learning curve..

Awesome! I tried someting with buildings and thru windows visuals, but I didn't find a proper image or video to use (too realistic or too toyish). The one you use here is really good. Maybe some pseudo reflections to add here and there for better integration. (but don't know how to, sorry

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I like it. Nice work!

Another Animusic. I used a piece of instrumental I made 2 years ago and build a pseudo anime using fake subjective camera movements. I squeezed Bitwig from my previous video workflow, (this one not being able to export midi tracks with CCs, showstopper for me) , and went back with Cubase and Magic r...

I promised to myself to use it one day.

Hello A strange flower grown in my Magic garden. The music was played live with external hardware (4 sources: craftsynth2, korg triton taktile, korg R3, korg Gadget) controlled with an Ipad, while Magic running on the laptop, linked via midi & audio. Then I recorded the midi flow in Magic and ad...

Nice one! I really like your work. The other video was stunning, hope to see more in this style...

I also support this kind of FR.
maybe tracing (highlight) the connections from a selected module could be a good start.

Thank you for sharing this, will try...

I just made a video projection on LED screen using Magic controlled by audio and midi on stage (12 musicians, but only guitar bass and drums had specific audio inputs for magic trough a Focusrite multichannel audio interface, and also a mic for the acoustic section (brass and strings). I used a long...

really like this one. Both music and visual.

eno ecin !

That was the case. I did quit 2.31 and relaunched 2.30 using the wrong shortcut. Now the expression work as expected. Anyway, some examples with the use of the new internal variable y could be fine. my skill with "expression" modifier is near from 0 :) Edit: I already managed to split the ...

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Just typed the example expression, but maybe there is something i didn't catch..

is there some example with the "y" variable ? When I use it, I get an error message 'undefined symbol"...

Vey nice effect and good start point. Thank you for your YT channel.

Hello Stephane.
Je suis en nouvelle Calédonie, utilisateur de Magic depuis 3 ans au moins, avec pas mal d'utilisation en midi.
Si tu as besoin d'un coup de main, avec plaisir.

Hi Steph, I'm from New Caledonia, Magic user since at least 3 years, mainly focused on midi use. If you need some help...

Hello!
Just to know, I have heard about some additions in the 3D aspect of MMV. How is the progress in this area?
Hope you're lla fine.

Korg utilities are very usefull : you can change buttons behavior, min and max values, channels...
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I have an intense use of midi in MMV. In Nanokontrol, as in many controllers, you can edit and save templates (scenes). I made some presets in my controllers, wich are dedicated to MMV. I own Nano kontrol mK1 (with 9 sliders), Korg triton Taktile, Behringer Ucontrol61, Zoom Arq96. Roland TD6 (drum k...

You may try to load your midifile in another DAW or midi player to see if it's valid.

@jamtpg19 I'm also a musician who discovered MMV and video stuff, mainly for midi driven visuals for my band. I work with audio, midi, 2D and 3Dvisuals and have several midi instruments projects to use as templates (keyboards, but not only). I'll be happy to share them with you once you get the Perf...

+1 (I suspect it will be for the next update

Wonderful!
Is this a 3D model for the skull?

RIP Rutger Hauer

Huge Blade Runner and Philip K.Dick here too...

Nice idea for this video, Almilius

nice effects and cool music, really like it. How will you manage to use Magic on stage?

I may be wrong, but I'm actually ready to buy a X18, (not the XR rack, but the flat Ipad dock version), and from whant I've read, outputs must be set using the grid of the X AIR EDIT software.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbrxvIzi9Fs
Hope this can help.

That's a really cool eye-catching effect, Sadler.

updated version of "la boite à coucou"

very nice! >download and study.
thanks for sharing

Very nice work! I like how the drummer plays the kick

I'll try IRL.

@Terry Payman Yes, I looked at Animusic years ago :D . Very good wotk at this time, but the DVD was only movie stuff, you listen to the music with some cool animations. What I'm trying to do is to build visual instruments that can be reused for other songs and for live play too. "la boite à cou...

what I'm currently working on, thanks to the Iterator and the examples coming with the beta. :) The midiator: steampunk meta-instrument (the end title is also made with some iterations) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FCm2Yz0CPE&feature=youtu.be "la boite à coucou" Fun toy with 16 pad...

Nice and sweet

Nice one!

I found a way to make a waving effect, but using a global and expression. I was able to use it with text splitted in lines and lines set to iteration#.

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A question for Sadler: how did you do the wavey effect in your text example, please?

Sorry, I've tried, but I don't get it to work. Could you please give a simple example?

Nevermind: I found it. I was trying to apply it to midi source/iterator# notes

. Instead, I've put it in the modules parameters that used internal/iteration# as source.

Thanks for the tip! I'll use it, because I have 4 keyboards (25k, 37k, 49k and 61k), and not only theydon't have a similar middle C note, but some are used for lower or upper octaves.

I noticed that. The thing is that it can change drastically your graphics when starting to use a greater iteration number as starting point for calculations. In addition to offset, a midi note number starting point could be used when you want to change octaves without making changes to other previou...

Still experimenting with this new toy. One thing I noticed: the offset setting , depending on the tranform/scale/rotate modules you use before, can sometimes be touchy to use. Maybe a setting in the module allowing to choose wich midi note to start with (0-127) could be another way.

short demo with the same music and 2 new instruments

I just discovered yesterday that a beat was available with the brand new iterators. And I saw the thread were you started the idea, and was thinking "wow, Eric did it!" so many thanks to both of you , Sadler and Eric! This is the perfect tool for midi/audio visual instruments. The implemen...

Thank you for this new tool !
Now making midi visuals is more simple for me

2 iterators here (one is derived from the piano demo, for the color )

Hi I own a Blueboard, connected to an Ipad for my midi guitar. It works very well and has 2 pedal inputs and 4 switches. If you have a Mac, you can use it on your laptop, in BLE mode. You can send CC or notes, not both, and values are fixed by default, you can't change them :( BUT: if you are runnin...

very responsive and immersive. Like it!

a little trailer for the next show in Noumea, New Caledonia, taken from the previous one in Tahiti last week. Just an amateur shooting from a friend. Magic with some animated shaders, 3D models.... I used 2 mics from a Scarlett Focusrite, one in the bass drum, the other in front of my guitar amp. Mi...

Nice! (and cool hardware set;)
Are you controlling Magic with midi, audio, both?

I am running Magic with Cubase on a Asus with almost the same specs ( but only 8gb ram)
Both programs are running from the SSD, and the datas (audio, video, 3d models, midi) are on 1T HDD.
Runs fine enough to render complex 3D anims with both midi and audio used as live stream or preloaded files.

Wonderful project!
I agree with you about the "intrument feeling" when using Magic. It helps us painting sound!

I also use Magic with my band. The first question my bandmates and tech asked is: Does it allow to control lights too? ;) This will bring Magic in another area, but could affect the workflow and efficiency of MMV. Maybe a separate software working in tandem, or a add-on, sharing the same midi clock....

intriguing.
"dark side..." quote in there. Like a bad trip in the ruins of Syd Barett's mind.

Brillant work!
Also curious to know about the masking.

Yep, an example with "global as variables"! Thanks Eric.
Downloading...

Lots of workflow improvements in this beta. The isf editor is the icing on the cake. I'm far from being able to write a complete shader, but I slowly start to understand some basics. I have learned how to assign some variables to the mouse, experimenting is now easier with edit and reload. Still hav...

Made this one with Mux. Mux is a modular VST plugin. I've built a little 6 track live sequencer, running in standalone mode with Savihost (tiny VST host) it works like the old Yamaha PSR series, left hand to play the sequenced chords/bass/drums, right hand for the melody. The whole track was made in...

No luck with this one... BTW, I tested Tobias's loopmidi and it works fine: You can create/delete/mute midi ports on the fly. What you need for your purpose with this one is a piece of midi software that can split incoming notes, change midi channels. I think you could try Mutools's MUX, a modular V...

You have also some tools here:
https://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software ... lmidi.html
http://www.tobias-erichsen.de/software/loopmidi.html
http://midirouter.sourceforge.net/

What is the model of your keyboard?

Useful work! Thanks for sharing.

All the sync events is this final scene are made via midi. With my new laptop, I'm able to play a Korg keyboard, a Roland electronic drum set, a midified guitar, and a tiny midi controler all together, each instrument emitting on his own midi channel and having his dedicated visual. Great fun with m...

This one did put my old laptop on his knees. I had to use 2 instances for some models (the "bass couple"), one in 3DS format for texturing, covered by another one in LWO format for specular/shininess. I had to remove a scene with 3D models textured with a video file (using "refractor&...

Nice cartoon effect!
Don't really understand: did you write a glsl shader or did you use Magic modules?

By the way, here is the link to the KVR forum page for Mutools products: http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=79

A little preset for you and a very basic "how to" in text file. Hope this will help you to start. If you have any question, I'll try to answer...
https://sites.google.com/site/thecausti ... -visuals-1

I'll have a look today and will make a basic patch for you. Stay tuned.

Yes you can do many things in both audio and midi domain. For example have a single knob or fader liked to many parameters, and you can alter those parameters with many things, including maths, modulators or audio. The perfect companion for Magic. I almost forget it, it was buried somewhere in my la...

Another solution: DIY. You can buit a controller plugin with MUX http://www.mutools.com/mux-product.html It's a modular thing, you can built synths, audio and midi processors. It works with virtual cables and modules, like our beloved Magic, and you can design your front user panel , map harware ins...

I've found these: https://www.bluecataudio.com/Products/Product_RemoteControl/ Can save/load presets. Blue Cats plugins are well done. This is a VST plugin, but you can convert it to a standalone version with Savihost http://www.hermannseib.com/english/savihost.htm . Savihost bank and presets can be...

Hi Directordash. I'm working a lot with midi, live inputs from keyboards and controllers and prepared midifiles. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if this can help you, but I used another way to map notes to input channels. Assuming you have 9 images to show, you could use it: note selector.jpg I n your c...

Very poetic and nice music. Like it.

Cool! Files sent, thank you.

I just reduced the 3DS model in the 3 axes with scale. This works for some simple models, but in this exemple, a simple torus, the internal diameter is reduced too, so it's not very accurate. This is just a workaround, not suitable for project with several 3 D models. I would like to have the 3DS or...

It may be an issue on my side, but I encoutered some strange things with textures on 3D models. For any 3DS model, the textures are here (*speccol, *difcol and *ambicol), but no specular. From LWS format, I get the right specular, but no textures are loaded. So I had a little workaround to have both...

Noticed that too.

Great work! and emotionnal challenge too. Really like the idea of interraction with the audience.

Thank you. It's only a brief demo. I plan to make a more serious piece of music, with several intruments including the magic box and previous models. Recently I was able to map videos (or any scene) on 3D models. So a new instrument is coming...;-) MMV itself is a magic box: Everytime I experiment w...

After some hours of work with different kind of animated 3D models, I made this little demo to showcase 6 instruments in one Magic box. (The real magician here being Eric of course!) Some explanations: . My workflow is based on 2 computers one for the music (my main studio machine) and a laptop for ...

Nice effect. I will study the source.
thanks for sharing!

For midi controls it could be useful to have a note repeater too in the module. Say you start from not 36 and increment the note number by 1 (or more)
This way building an animated keyboard woud be a piece of cake.

nice effect. Thanks too for sharing

I would say, if you are sure about your text motion, and fast enough with After Effects, the rendered video is the more simple approach and less time consuming. However, if you want to test some effects in place, doing it in Magic can be also effective, once your setup is fine. The almost endless po...

Nice vid and good work with midi and audio. I also work with cubase and midi and used the same method, but I gave up with LoopBe. Instead I use 2 computers.
Can't wait to see the final video.

I don't know wich RME model you have but you should try with the RME Totalmix routing, wich is not really user-friendly... Another option is to export the audio as Wav file to Magic and work only with midi trough LoopBe. I also have a software midi router, but I still use 2 computers: A laptop for M...

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