Magic Music Visuals

Hi, I very often have to work with different setups of audio and MIDI gear. That makes it necessary to remap all the sources to their respective inputs. Mostly these are three or four setups I have to switch to. It would be a very helpful feature if we could safe and load setups of Input Sources. On...

BTW a question to Eric: If it happens that Magic looses contact to a MIDI-device: Could You make something like a MIDI rescan without the need to close Magic? Actually when this happens I have to replug the MIDI-device and the restart Magic which is not a choice while performing. If Magic could relo...

Hi, I am using two Launch Control XL in my setup. Since there is no unique identification which one is which I can connect only one of them directly to USB, the other one has to go through another device so it is recognized by the system as a different piece of MIDI. In my case it connects to a RME ...

Thanks. I did not know this switch yet. At least with nativ 60 fps it works now. I can define whatever fps or resolution I want in the Nvidia control panel as custom resolution. So defined for 30 fps. This is what I will check next if it works also with that. MadMapper says it needs 60 fps to run sm...

Thats exactly what I did. I changed all devices to 30 fps. But vertical sync does nothing. I use Spout to feed MadMapper. So maybe Magic sees a 60 fps there? But it does not sync to that either. It just runs free. And it does not matter if MadMapper is running or not. Even if setting all devices to ...

Hi, yes I know that. I will not use intentionally any MIDI-Device for MadMapper. I don't need one for that. And in the MIDI-prefs of MadMapper no device is registered. But anyway as soon as I start MadMapper first and Magic second I can't access this one MIDI device. So I always start Magic first. B...

Hi, my setup is Magic and then MadMapper for mapping. I have three MIDI-controlers attached, one KORG nanoKey, one Novation LaunchControl XL through legacy USB and another LaunchControl through a MIDI-host which connects then through Fireface. This is because through USB only one Launch Control at a...

Just to be sure: Vertical sync only works at 60 fps? I tried to set all my graphics to 30 fps. But there ist no sync then.

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Reinhard

Hi, did somebody ever work with a SLI setup? I just put one to work. But it is a disappointment to see only a marginally if ever benefit in work with Magic. I am afraid that this is due SLI architecture. So maybe this is not the way to gain power and more resolution, fps .... Is there any experience...

Thanks. Double buffering was the thing.

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No, I don't. I remember that it was for some time. But actually I don't get it. Mostly it is well higher. I toggled the setting but it did not help. Could it be that Magic does not see the displays since I use Spout as output?

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Hi, I am just trying out different mapping apps. The most promising up to now is MadMapper. It does what I need except that the final video is not moving smoothly. This is said to be due to my Spout output of Magic is not locked to 60 Hz (rate of the outputs to my three projectors). I thought that w...

Ok, so this is new. Not long ago I was able to activate and deactivate at will.
But the final conclusion is: Magic is that cheap so it should not be a problem to have two licenses or more.

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Reinhard

Hi, are You aware that You can always disable Your license on one machine and then enable it on another? It is a matter of a few clicks and seconds, a breeze to change machines. And I understand that You are only working on one machine at a time, right? So You should be fine. And I must second Erics...

I had the same issue with an ASUS board and NVIDIA graphics adapter. The moment the Intel graphics are involved fps goes down to nearly zero. I thought I could use the intel adaptor for the app and display my projectors through NVIDIA. But this won't work. What I want to know is what will happen if ...

Hmm, but this arrangement does not allow to manipulate each part separately. I would like to e.g. to skew the side parts to correct some distortion in relation to the middle part. I would like to overlap the parts to a little portion in order to apply some some edge blur. Things like this, even corr...

Hi, I did not want to open an new topic since it is pretty much the same problem or question. I output a 3240 x 1920 scene to three projectors which is very easy and perfect with magic to do. But since I prefer to project directly onto walls and these are not always just a plain wall and somtimes ev...

Hi back in 2018, thanks for thinking with me. I always try to have things as simple and straightforward as possible because I want to be able to change things quickly even during performance. Things are always in progress. So subfolders and subscenes do not feel right for me because they too many cl...

I would like to control the character(s) through MIDI. This of course makes only sense if You do not want to write TEXT but just characters as a source of grafics. But this is exactly what I want to do. I know that this might be not trivial since there must be some sort of map underlying to assign ...

Yes, thanks.
I was looking for an up/down command. Sorry and thanks.
Reinhard

Hi, I am working with the text module these days and since I never did before I miss some things. Maybe there is already some solution for one or the other question. First and most important: I would like to control the character(s) through MIDI. This of course makes only sense if You do not want to...

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I miss desperately a feature to sort input sources in the list, that is: insert a new source at will, move up and down sources at will. That would help a lot to keep things clean and simple.

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Reinhard

Thanks for looking into it. I made some tests to find some hints but at the end I do not know. I tried with different resolutions. In the zip there are 3 different examples with different resolutions, two of them run and one does not. The one which makes Magic crash is NES_3240x1920.mov. It is the s...

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I never had problems with HAP encoded movs. But since some days my newly encoded movies make Magic crash. I use AfterEffects for encoding as always and did not change anything. So I am a bit lost. Any idea?

Thanks for help
Reinhard

...in addition: If "show annotation" is chosen we have a constant width already and we see the power button. Of course we lose some space because of a second line and constant width of modules. But this is a good trade off for me. It then would be consequent to show also the bypass button....

I thought lot about that and found no trick to do it. I would like to change inputmaps per scene. E.g. I designed a scene for 6 different instruments to modulate parameters. Now I want to exchange instrument 1 with instrument 5. I could do that in the input sources window easily - but this is valid ...

The problem is that we do not have a fixed width of minimized module bars. So if You do not want to have a fixed width it would be logical to me to have all buttons on the left side which is always fixed (and I would opt for the bypass and power buttons always on top!). Or You decide to have a fixed...

Yes, this is right, You need to know where power is turned off. Thanks for thinking about a solution. Maybe You could just deactivate (even remove?) the powerbutton if the paramter is activated?

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I have some scenes with a really big count of modules. One has 20 images each treated with HueSat, scale, translate and rotate and some more fx. This is not a problem of processing but just to get them all placed and accessible. And looking into one image module to load another image while performin...

I am afraid: What is the difference by turning power off with the button and doing with the parameter? The effect at least is exactly the same...am I wrong? If not I am eager to learn the difference. Then I must come come back to some indcation with colours...and You don't like that as I know. Reinh...

Yes, the buttons maybe wherever they want. But the title bar is more or less allways at the same place. Clicking onto that is easy. Don't have to move the mouse at all. It is a real problem when performing and You have to do some fast changes. Keyboard shortcuts are often a good help. But in this ca...

Hi, another wish: When a module is powered off it is greyed out (and the complete chain before also). That indicates clearly the state at one glance. Unfortunately this is not the case if power is shown in the parameters and e.g. activated through MIDI. So it cannot be easily seen if the module is a...

Hi, I have a wish (its xmas time): I am not really happy with the way modules mimize and maximaze back again because the little +/- boxes move when doing so. I understand that it is intended to really minimize that means also horizontally shrinking to the limit. But it would be a big help to impleme...

Hi,
yes it helps. I knew it was basic. Some shaders seem to add something in the background e.g. Auto Color Tone. But this might be a problem of these shaders and not Yor business.
I am happy with that and thanks
Reinhard

Hi, I need to put png-files with alpha onto a canvas. These png-files are elements of a complete picture and they should be able to move etc. around without any impact onto the background. Until now I could not find any option to do so. All the mixoptions in the blend module do something with the ba...

Hi, I was very lucky to see these features because handling and rearranging projects with scenes of my repository should now be easy. But I stumbled accross a few problems. First: When I first used "Save scene to project" I was thinking that this would add this scene to the existing projec...

Hi, let me say two things: Visuals come first, user interface has to be most ergonomic in controlling visuals. Nobody ever praised my user interface. And if "laws" should apply like "Never cross lines" most of my scenes will n ot come to live. That can't be serious. Some of the b...

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as to rotation: I tried modifiers but could not exceed 1. Since I will do rotation also by hand via MIDI-controller ramp and wrap does not help here. But I can live with that. I do not have much time left these days. Will be better in summer - or autumn. This year...

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Reinhard

Hi, I want to suggest to give us some coloring options at hand to keep things sorted in crowded scenes. I really often run into situations where I don not know anymore how modules are connected and interacting. Look at the picture and You will see what I mean. MagicColors.jpg First of all I see at o...

Hi Nik, GREAT! Many thanks for Your fast work. This opens lot of inspiration. I already did some research with this module. What I will try - provided I find into ISF programming that fast - is give not only polar coordinates for the points but also x/y. For some movements this seems to be more conv...

Aaah! I did not see the second input. So this makes a difference of course - a big one. BTW I am on 2.01b2.

Yeah, I will find some time to recap my math - is some 40 years ago. But I am curious to look inside.

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Reinhard

Hi Nik, thanks a lot for Your interest and work. But I am afraid I am not deep enough into writing and programming ISFs on my own. I will try to get deeper into that. But as now I am only a user of what I see on the surface of Magic. Here I think I am very much at home. But this may be not sufficien...

Thanks for that thoughts and hints. I talked to that guy and what I know for sure is that there is no 3D-whatsoever involved. It is just points and lines which are moved around in realtime - and all this runs very smooth. There was no chance to talk in depth with him. So that is all I know so far. I...

Please have a look at that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-X0oDRnqRD8 I would very much like to have means for things like that. This is done in Quartz-Composer and played through VDMX. I for sure do not want to switch to that setup but I am very impressed by the power of clowds of animated dots a...

So I happily wait.

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Reinhard

Ok. The playlist is not what I meant. It changes controlers and channels per project. But it does not give a list of which key of a controler and which fader is routed to which parameter on which specific module in that specific scene . I need theses very details. So I am looking forward to the news...

Ok, status info sounds good.

Well, good to know that reverse play is not a good idea. So I will figure out another way to solve this problem, maybe with the JPEG folder as You said.
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Reinhard

I often are in a situation where I run out of video during a scene. This is because the music is improvised and could last 3 minutes or 10, I never know. To avoid some unpleasant jumps in the visual I would like to see how much video is left so I could react some way on the situation. So an infobar ...

Hi, I really would appreciate a list of all connected MIDI controllers and their respective targets. In crowded scenes there are lots of MIDI controls and some of them control different features on differents modules at a time. Sometimes I have to change controllers for handyness, and sometimes I im...

Hi, I really miss a feature which lets me import scenes from other projects. Basically I want to arange a set scenes for a show by using scenes from different other projects. The only way I know yet is to import a complete project and delete all I do not need. This is acceptable but needs a lot of a...

Did You think about a good old joystick? I must admit that I didn't use one for years and I do not know if they still are transmitting MIDI-Data. But I bet that there are some apps out there to translate these joystick output into whatever You need. And these do work fluently and without lags. Other...

Hi, I must drop in and tell that I had similar experience last days. I have the latest driver on my GTX 970 and I did a clean setup of WIN 10 not long ago. So I dare to assume that my system is in good condition. Now it is that when editing, now and then Magic all of a sudden is not controllable any...

We will see (and have a plan B).

Reinhard

Yes, that is pretty clear.
The first gig with that setup would most probably be in summer. So I am pretty confident.

Reinhard

I was trying the same with two LaunchControl XL. I am not sure - Eric will tell us - but I suspect that these MIDI controllers do not submit a uniuque device ID but only their name which is the same for devices of the same make. So they can't be distinguished by any app. Even the Novation Launch Con...

Hmmm. I did in fact a setup with arena and could not accept the latency. But maybe I did some fault in the setup? I will give that a try again. And also I will check Your other proposal with gamer apps. Those should be pretty much reactive by nature. But however - and this is maybe more a feeling th...

This is good news.
And I must say (once again): I never experienced a user forum such reactive and positive on user input. That ist outstanding.

Thanks! I am looking forward on things to come!
Reinhard

I know that, mapping is a different task. And I tried out some of the named apps and more. But all of them take time which is very critical for me. And all of them use a piece of my valuable computing power. (And I always had the feeling they do no good to the image quality - but that might be subje...

Hi, I am planning to do a setup which comprises two projectors aside to get a super wide image, 3840 x 1080 px. So my first thought was to use the surround feature of NVidia. Unfortunately this wont' work for this can't use just two screens as one for the projection and leave the third for the progr...

Hmm, now I tried all of Your suggestions and some more. It all does not come out as I want it. Maybe I am wrong thinking. But in After Effects I can get something in that direction I think. I will play a little bit and tell You if something serious comes out.

Reinhard

Thanks for Your thoughts.

I will experiment on Your proposals. And I am confident to achieve some progress in what I am looking for. I still feel that reducing contrast is not what I am looking for. I do not want to get the images flaw. But I may be wrong. Hands on will proof it.

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Reinhard

Hi Terry, that is exactly what I feel: Using the RGB sliders does not translate a wide colour range into a narrow one. Thanks for the hint with HSVtoRGB.fs. I will check out if it hewlps me. Sounds promising. Unfotunately I am not familiar in writing my own ISF modules or hack an existing one. So an...

What I really would like to have is some means to control the often overwhelming colours of some shaders (or whatever source). I think of something like setting a range into which all the original colours are compressed. A lot of shaders cycle through the entire colour wheel. Instead I would like to...

You need a second translate after the rotate module to move the origin of Your needle to where You want it. It usually is better to set the scale factor first to determine the range of the needle. Then use offset if needed. To mimic the ballistics of a VU You could use a smooth and a peak module. Re...

While trying to find some solution I stumble over several issues which might help and possibly were easy to implement: 1. I tried to insert an Offset modifier in order to pull back the increasing value at a certain point. While it is possible to connect the parameter with a MIDI-controller this does...

Well. I currently use two ways to do it: CMD+E starts everything. In some scenes this can work if there is no video involved. And the Input switch is also an option if You just want to reset the specific module. But it is a bit tricky since if You want to avoid a black screen while switching You hav...

Yes well, but there never is a fall back when that guy (e.g.) stops playing. It is just running and summing forever. I would like to at least have a manual reset (to a treshold value - offset). I could use the bypass toggle to mimic a reset. But unfortunately that only works if performed with the mo...

Yes, I thought about the latter one: Getting some MIDI-command and use it with Samplitude (in my case). I use a RME Fireface as audio interface with Magic and could take a second one to have MIDI go into my laptop with Samplitude. That would be great for me: Have a start command out of Magic for the...

Hi, I have a question and I believe it is possibe to do that with an expression. But I am somehow lost. So here is my question: I would like to sum up the energy of a sound, e.g. if a guy blows into his horn and holds the tone the factor should rise until he let got. Is that possible? Curious Reinhard

Ok, at least it is good to know how Your architecture is planned. I know that things can mess up very quickly if all of the options suggested are implemented. Of course there are more choices and possiblities. But things get messed up and You loose a fast and intuitive user interface. It is Your dec...

Great to hear. Thanks.
Reinhard

While talking about transitions, there is one I would love: VideoFile Module, looping. When the loop is to start again I very much would appreciate a fade transition from the end of the file into the beginning. So no hard jumps in the video will occur.

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Hi, I would like to make a suggestion: How about a media module that is just loading audio ( I will not think about tweaking the audio, a level control would be handy). The only input is a trigger from a videoloader (maybe a MIDI trigger too). So everytime the video is at its startingpoint it will t...

Yes, I tried (nearly) all possible resolutions. 1080p60 as well as 720p60 connects and I can see it in BMD Desktop Video Utility and in Resolume. But BlackSpout window shows a white screen and Magic VidCap shows the device but no picture.

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OK. Here we are. I post 3 screenshots: One is the regular windows screenresoltion window. The second is NVidia control center. Third one is HWInfo to show a summary of the computer and details of the card. I could provide a HWInfo of the receiver also. Should I? You see that windows shows just 1920 ...

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I now tried with different resolutions, also 720p. No luck. I can see BlackSpout in Media but screen stays black.

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Hi Eric, thanks for answering. And yes, I tried all possible resolutions incl. lower ones progressive and interlaced. The Blackmagic card only responds to my other computers HDMI output in 1080i60. But as said: This works with Resolume. Maybe I should try some tweaks on that senders graphic resoluti...

Hi, I desperately try to get live input from my Blackmagic Intensity Pro 4k. I want to bring in the output screen of another computer via HDMI. This works in Resolume. But I would like to do it in Magic. So I start Black Spout, the card is recognized correctly, I specify #1 (HDMI) and set mode to 9 ...

May I ask how things are now? I am Win 8.1 x64 and can't access my BM Intensity Pro 4K. Would be perfect if that worked.
Which workaround do You propose?

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Reinhard

Hi, and thanks for response. first: It is also delayed when I use a waveform-modul. Then: The dispaly device is a Panasonic PT AT 5000. This has a small delay I know. But I did not think it was so big. When I use it with a bluRay-player no extra delay for audio is necessary normally. Anyway, I will ...

Hi, I have a project running with live audio inputs. Problem is that the visual response to ingoing audio is delayed too much, some 0.5 seconds at least. I use RME FireFace with very small buffers. All in all there should not be more than 20 mS of delay be introduced by that. So the main delay must ...

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